(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-08-08]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/35999485]
GN[1st TPGL semi-final ]
PB[artem92]
PW[Crazywind]
BR[?]
WR[4d]
TM[1800]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
RE[B+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[Crazywind: have a great game!
artem92: have a nice game
Avtikh: \[object Object\]
]
;B[qd]
(;W[dd]
(;B[pq]
(;W[dq]
(;B[oc]
(;W[qo]
(;B[op]
(;W[ql]
(;B[cc]
(;W[cd]
(;B[dc]
(;W[ed]
(;B[fb]
(;W[dn]
(;B[jq]
(;W[gc]
(;B[fc]
(;W[fd]
(;B[bd]
(;W[be]
(;B[bc]
(;W[cf]
(;B[cl]
(;W[cn]
(;B[ci]
(;W[bj]
(;B[bi]
(;W[bl]
(;B[cj]
(;W[bk]
(;B[fi]
C[Mrrr: nice 
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(;W[hi]
C[Mrrr: cap also pretty
]
(;B[fk]
(;W[hq]
(;B[gd]
(;W[ge]
(;B[hd]
(;W[he]
(;B[id]
(;W[ie]
(;B[jd]
(;W[hk]
C[S_Alexander: that's a lot of points
]
(;B[ff]
C[S_Alexander: black lives and good
]
(;W[dh]
(;B[eg]
(;W[dg]
(;B[hg]
(;W[ig]
(;B[ih]
(;W[hh]
(;B[gg]
(;W[jg]
(;B[fe]
C[Groin: Not a sso light and easy position for b i am afraid
Knechtor: how can white live? Is this group dead?
Mrrr: no
]
(;W[ei]
C[Mrrr: Black has too many cutting points
]
(;B[ej]
C[Mrrr: but now he will have time to defend them as white busy making eyes, probably that was the purpose of F15
]
(;W[fh]
C[Mrrr: *white is busy
Knechtor: Thanks for the explanation, now I can see the cut
]
(;B[eh]
(;W[di]
(;B[gh]
(;W[dj]
(;B[je]
(;W[if]
C[Groin: No cut but b becomes heavy
S_Alexander: black got cut and still not alive?
]
(;B[hl]
C[snakesss: this looks horrificly bad for black, no?
]
(;W[il]
C[S_Alexander: I mean, if black lives then no?
Groin: Well hard ar keast
snakesss: still the left side became points and look at the influence white is getting
]
(;B[hm]
C[S_Alexander: no points in the center, we got top, ez win
]
(;W[ik]
C[snakesss: one eye in hote, so far?
slb7: game hard for b already, not even sure how it's going to live
snakesss: oh 
MyBlizzAcc: how its going to live? easily, any day of the week
MyBlizzAcc: white might take 3 stones, but thats small atm
snakesss: not even one eye
snakesss: e14 and g11 miai
Groin: A little bit of aji at C9 may help ?
MyBlizzAcc: black is out
]
(;B[em]
C[MyBlizzAcc: now white has to eat
MyBlizzAcc: or black saves the stones
MyBlizzAcc: if white takes, black takes sente
slb7: g9 looks pretty juicy
MyBlizzAcc: dont think g9 does anything
MyBlizzAcc: black just descends
slb7: it is the shape point
MyBlizzAcc: its dame
]
(;W[gk]
C[slb7: lol
snakesss: lol
MyBlizzAcc: and back descends?
MyBlizzAcc: then what?
slb7: if b got g9, b has eyespace
S_Alexander: i feel it's a bit of thank you move
snakesss: its still a good exchange before fixing?
MyBlizzAcc: i dont think this move changes anything for white?
MyBlizzAcc: i mean, sure its sente, but?
slb7: Just think if b gets g9, b is alive
]
(;B[fl]
(;W[dl]
C[S_Alexander: black is probably already pretty alive
snakesss: how
snakesss: 0 eyes
slb7: ikr
snakesss: gotta run - which means more harassment
MyBlizzAcc: now the question is if black can tenuki or not
S_Alexander: ah, come on, sure it can be harassed but you can't kill that
MyBlizzAcc: if he can live, he can tenuki
snakesss: cant tenuki, whaaa
]
(;B[hp]
(;W[fn]
C[slb7: wow
slb7: very aggresive
S_Alexander: that's a shape point alright 
snakesss: peeperooni
MyBlizzAcc: the big question is who gets sente
slb7: obviously white
slb7: w is doing the attacking, will get sente
MyBlizzAcc: obviously? youve read out a sequence?
]
(;B[en]
C[S_Alexander: hmmmmmm
snakesss: black cant get g3, if thats what you mean
snakesss: i mean, maybe they can but it would be surprising
S_Alexander: looks like an exciting move
snakesss: black being able to tenuki 1.5 times from that fight
Hotrik: If I don't know what I'm talking about, I don't comment.
S_Alexander: but that's the fun of kibitz
snakesss: ^^
]
(;W[ip]
C[MyBlizzAcc: top to middle right is big atm, there is the bot right corner to close as well, and bottom left
snakesss: yeeee cut that
MyBlizzAcc: sente is worth a lot
]
(;B[ho]
C[snakesss: j3 is pain
snakesss: so it's an exchange?
Zaphodian: the pain does not stop and may even become more
Zaphodian: No exchange. W just made points
]
(;W[iq]
C[S_Alexander: black needs another move?
schnorz: W made points while b didn't quite die
S_Alexander: or nay?
slb7: exactly, schnorz
]
(;B[ep]
C[snakesss: this is the exchange i meant
snakesss: white didnt answer
S_Alexander: black destroyed some of white influence there. 
snakesss: so b lives by reducing this lower left?
snakesss: though i agree, hard to call it an exchange
snakesss: when white getting so much
S_Alexander: white has a lot there but not enough to win just yet
MyBlizzAcc: left was whites center of influence anyway
MyBlizzAcc: the reduction didnt go great.. but it was white to start with, and black got some on the top
slb7: w got way more than b
MyBlizzAcc: it was his to begin with, so if white wouldnt have gotten more it would have been a disaster for white
]
(;W[mq]
C[snakesss: top has potential but b owes in bottomright
]
(;B[dp]
C[S_Alexander: welp, now white owes in bottom-left?
S_Alexander: this is exciting
MyBlizzAcc: black can give up that one stone and try and grab the bottom right corner instead?
]
(;W[cp]
C[MyBlizzAcc: while reducing the bottom left corner? seems fair
snakesss: i would never tenuki like this - would be too chicken for it
WaterAngel: Usually B will cut at J3. It has to do with F6 exchange so that B cant cut at J3
]
(;B[cq]
C[snakesss: i cant make enough profit of bottomright attack to give up this bottomleft
S_Alexander: can white kill Q3?
snakesss: no, wat
MyBlizzAcc: kill q3? i want some of the stuff that you are smoking xD
S_Alexander: i don't know it has no eyes
slb7: s3 and might be able to kill
slb7: or at least attack
MyBlizzAcc: kill and attack are two completely different things
]
(;W[eq]
(;B[fq]
(;W[fr]
(;B[fp]
(;W[er]
C[S_Alexander: interesting that white still defends bottom-left allowing black to take sente to bottom-right
]
(;B[co]
(;W[bp]
C[BadukGisa: some teachers even say that "to kill and to attack are complete opposites"
]
(;B[bo]
(;W[bq]
C[snakesss: trying to take sente twice is greedy
slb7: the difference is that smart players don't try to kill
snakesss: white got the first move and will get the attack - if they play first again, the gain is unclear
snakesss: then, you would have to actually kill
schnorz: " the difference is that smart players don't try to kill"
schnorz: that;s maybe a bit far
]
(;B[do]
C[snakesss: hmmmm
snakesss: now?
S_Alexander: can black hope to pull out some stones?
]
(;W[ck]
C[S_Alexander: probably yes then
snakesss: ok, cant - thats huge
MyBlizzAcc: c9 was forced for white i think
MyBlizzAcc: now there are bigger moves
MyBlizzAcc: for black
]
(;B[mp]
C[MyBlizzAcc: so my feeling is that black ended ok
schnorz: so the result of w's attack is that he got most of the bottom 
]
(;W[gi]
C[schnorz: interesting
snakesss: :O
]
(;B[fj]
C[snakesss: white saying there is still something?
]
(;W[in]
C[MyBlizzAcc: most likely just some forcing moves
S_Alexander: i feel it's a success for black, they got all that stuff in the corner and didn't lose a move in bottom-right
]
(;B[im]
(;W[jm]
C[snakesss: after black invaded, white solidified left and bottomleft - got influence and got the first move to play n3
CarloTibaldi: I don't think B is happy
]
(;B[io]
C[S_Alexander: yes, forcing moves are a bit painful
MyBlizzAcc: left and bottom left is what, around 35 points?
MyBlizzAcc: only top is actually much bigger than that
snakesss: ye, around 35
]
(;W[jn]
C[MyBlizzAcc: right side looking very big now
MyBlizzAcc: to play in
S_Alexander: white's wall looks solid though
snakesss: if white gets m4 hane, more like 45
MyBlizzAcc: yeah, but if theres nothing to attack?
]
(;B[jo]
C[MyBlizzAcc: if white gets m4 black gets something else on the right most likely
]
(;W[lp]
C[snakesss: center is already *some* points, maybe 10?
CarloTibaldi: B draon is not alive yet
]
(;B[mo]
C[CarloTibaldi: *dragon
slb7: m5 if w thinks he's behind
S_Alexander: can we have 1-1?
]
(;W[jp]
(;B[ko]
(;W[nq]
(;B[kp]
(;W[kq]
C[WaterAngel: I heard that a wall can be cashed out with the formula point = size * 2
]
(;B[gq]
C[WaterAngel: I could be wrong
]
(;W[gr]
C[schnorz: I've heard of similar heuristics
]
(;B[lo]
(;W[lq]
C[schnorz: but they're all very rough
]
(;B[pn]
(;W[qn]
C[S_Alexander: ok, white gets bottom, black neutralized white's influence
]
(;B[pm]
C[S_Alexander: black's good?
slb7: hmm game doesn't look as bad for b as before
snakesss: or you could say white made points on the bottom for free- because the center stones they have black was already neutralized
]
(;W[ki]
(;B[qj]
(;W[qq]
C[S_Alexander: nah, i'm not gonna say that, you say that
WaterAngel: It looks like the game is even
snakesss: white got 45 points(?) + right side and komi
WaterAngel: I feel like B has more potential to make points from now
S_Alexander: black has only 2 periods left
S_Alexander: B is screwed on time 
]
(;B[qp]
(;W[rp]
C[snakesss: B got 50 on top? 5 with the cramped invasion group
]
(;B[pp]
(;W[rr]
C[gennan: w gained points from attack, but b is safe and thick now
]
(;B[qr]
(;W[rq]
(;B[qm]
(;W[rm]
(;B[rn]
(;W[ro]
C[CarloTibaldi: B has to make 60 points (at least) and I don't see how he can do that and it is also behind on time
]
(;B[rl]
(;W[sn]
(;B[pl]
C[snakesss: so black needs to make 10 points around r14? and b wins
S_Alexander: wow, white is completely sealed in?
snakesss: huh
katapliksi: Q16 incoming
]
(;W[rd]
C[snakesss: oh, i didnt count white center points at all
katapliksi: S16 :(
snakesss: but b has some there as well
MyBlizzAcc: let white take corner
S_Alexander: i personally don't like when it's sealed like that
MyBlizzAcc: and take side
]
(;B[qc]
(;W[qe]
C[MyBlizzAcc: R13?
]
(;B[qg]
C[MyBlizzAcc: there we go
]
(;W[oe]
C[torbg: Artem winning :)
]
(;B[me]
(;W[rc]
(;B[rb]
C[MyBlizzAcc: around 75 for white with komi and not really possibility to add much to that?
]
(;W[nd]
(;B[mb]
C[slb7: I feel like there's aji around o17
slb7: ah yep
MyBlizzAcc: around 65-70 for black?
MyBlizzAcc: atm
MyBlizzAcc: but this white group isnt alive yet, so perhaps black can make some points while white lives
gennan: I think Artem likes this kind of thick position for black.
snakesss: well, i was already giving more points than current situation, to black, on top
snakesss: it was close to 50 now it's not even 40
MyBlizzAcc: i think itll all depend on how easily white settles this group and then endgame
katapliksi: R14?
]
(;W[rg]
(;B[qf]
(;W[qb]
C[MyBlizzAcc: white found a tesuji?
gennan: Black has potential around O8, especially with those weakish white groups.
]
(;B[pb]
(;W[pd]
(;B[pc]
(;W[rf]
(;B[qh]
C[S_Alexander: white's not alive?
]
(;W[ra]
(;B[qa]
C[MyBlizzAcc: white into timesujis now?
gennan: S19 Nice tesuji
snakesss: like, asking for t17 in sente?
]
(;W[sb]
C[snakesss: or get a ko?
]
(;B[sa]
(;W[rh]
(;B[ri]
C[S_Alexander: i feel black can connect and what then
MyBlizzAcc: is it enough for black to just cut the 016 stone and take those points?
]
(;W[ra]
(;B[qb]
(;W[nf]
(;B[mf]
C[jillgoodgal: apparently not
gennan: S19 was probe for ko or deny P16 cut
S_Alexander: k
]
(;W[pf]
(;B[ng]
(;W[mg]
C[S_Alexander: ok, how white lives?
MyBlizzAcc: white is alive?
torbg: no 
torbg: gg
]
(;B[og]
(;W[md]
C[MyBlizzAcc: hmm
slb7: w is threatening m18
gennan: W dead?
]
(;B[le]
(;W[lb]
C[slb7: lol
S_Alexander: if they can't do anything on top
snakesss: looks dead to me
snakesss: o18?
]
(;B[mc]
C[gennan: I think it's dead
Zaphodian: never say ever
]
(;W[si]
C[snakesss: peep q11 and push or sumtin?
]
(;B[qk]
C[artem92: thanks
Crazywind: thanks
S_Alexander: gg 
Zaphodian: finito
MyBlizzAcc: yey! artem! congrats!
S_Alexander: when second game?
jillgoodgal: very complicated game
WaterAngel: Grats to Artem
Scorpio San: Поздравляем!
gennan: Thanks
Strengwert: Поздравляю Артема!
]
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